Viviane I think your brilliant, if you love a good argument you have the stuff to back it up.
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Viviane I think your brilliant, if you love a good argument you have the stuff to back it up.
The Rebel.
wow shall i start with classic books and films?
no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .
ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.
Yes you make a good point, and nothing coded about your logic.
I guess it's the same way Walmart does what maximises profits. But I don't agree with them and their stance on the confederate flag and that don't make me racist.
The Rebel ( no south connection chosen with the name)
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Violins it is posted on the section friends. The subject matter is not noncence, however the subject matter we discussed in the Kingdom Hall was noncence. I am disgusted having researched how the money i donated as a witness was invested in tobacco companies and far worse, which is why I addressed the money issue on the moon project. Personally I think you would be amazed in the transformation in me since I left the witnesses fairly recently. I am confident,have a smile on my face and discussing this subject has been very beneficial for my re-programming.
I am sorry you were " so embarrassed when you saw the title of this thread" I have seen what I consider worse titles, and besides the thread has been conducted very respectively by the posters, which is a complement to all those who have participated in what is perhaps a controversial subject.
Kind Regards
The Rebel
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
agreedwith you freemindfade.I believe the moon landing happened. But having spent the evening reviewing this thread I don't see any definitive proof that man went to the moon. However before the abusive ranting, I think it highly likely they did. thereforeI will be researching these two questions this week:-
A) Do I believe the Official story that man landed on the moon in 1969 is fact.
B) Do I believe that the still photographs and videos prove NASA lied to the world.
I am glad this thread has awakened me to the separate issues of how the project became a distraction from Vietnam. Re the genocide from Vietnam I wonder if the money from NASS subcontractors was from the companies that made those weapons of mass destruction? Finally I personally do not agree even if man did land on the moon it was worth the open cheque.
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
taking the discussion in a different direction, in order for the " moon landing " to have happened,a big enough blank cheque would have been needed and of course some brilliant scientists.
Do you believe that blank cheque was justified?
The Rebel.
wow shall i start with classic books and films?
no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .
ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.
Having spoken so much about censorship, I remember as a child how angry my father was when the seat belt law came in to effect. He was Fing and blinding, " bloody government, their is no freedom in this country anymore" Now remembering back to those times I sat on my mothers lap on the passenger seat in that tiny mini, it sends shivers down my spine. " sorry dad, you were wrong on that one"
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Freemindfade I wasn't mad at you, Thanks for the support " mate"
Your friend.
The Rebel
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Freemindfade no I didn't go to the moon. and I will partisipate in any debate conducted in a respectful way. I am happy to concede my critical thinking skills may not be the best,and that my knowledge of the subject limited. I would ask posters to appreciate that.
So why did I bring the topic up? Well like myself I am also sure that most people who have never doubted the Apollo moon landing have never thought about nor have they looked at the science. ( what does that say about critical thinking?)
That is not to say I will conclude man didn't go to the moon, but shouldn't all things be researched with an open mind?
My independent research has led me to the genocide in Vietnam. I wonder if the money from NASA subcontractors was from the same companies that made the weapons of mass destruction?
Did the Appollo programme distruct from Vietnam?
Those questions may have nothing to do with if man landed on the moon, but personally I am pleased my research has bought the subject to my attention.
As i am only researching. I also have not had time to check the validity of many statements people have made on this thread. ( hence my silence from the debate)
personally I may well believe man did land on the moon, but do I trust governments "OOH so that's why we were over there. And it wasnt an act of terrorism, and it wasnt for the oil. It was publicised for many years what was wrong with the English Establishment. Only now has it been finally taken seriously that a list of politicians from across the political spectrum In England, maybe should have been accused of abusing children, including the late cabinet minister Leon Britton, Liberal Democrate Sir Cyril Smith, and former Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath. If these accusations are proved true I am pleased those who were ridiculed for exposing these crimes are vindicated. The point being what what was to absurd for people to believe may now be true.
i am pleased I started this thread, I have found it informative, and hope comments can be posted in a constructive and not offensive manor, I mean what's the point of insulting and trying to make somebody look foolish.
The Rebel.
wow shall i start with classic books and films?
no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .
ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.
Slidin Fast, you make a great point about critical thinking, and of course it's much easier to do that IF we are fortunate enough have the Internet. Which is great, because whilst I don't agree religiouse magazines like " The Watchtoer" and " Awake" should be banned, I am very grateful they can be exposed more easily for what they really are.
The Rebel.
i want someone in the forum to teach me how i can create account in jw.org and also the confidential area in jw.org please.
Hi Collins, you have created 4 threads in 19 minutes.
Why not create one thread with all the information you require on?
Anyway welcome to the board, we are both newbies finding ourselfs around.
The Rebel